Name: Max Ogilvy- Ramsay
DoB: June 5, 1893,
Regt: Lieut., R.A.F.
DoD: Killed in action in Italy, Aug. 4, 1918.
Academic Career: CGS 1907- 1912. Sedbergh School.
Max was the son of Dr Maxwell and Isabella Ogilvy-Ramsay. He had a sister, Mary, and the 1901 and 1911 Census list both Mary and Max living with their parents at Portland Square, Carlisle.
A Mary Ogilvy Ramsay died in 1977 (born November 1894) so it seems she never married.
Carlisle Grammar School 1907-12. He was a member of the school debating society he supported the motion “International arbitration is a substitute for war”
Max joined the Royal Flying Corps and was commissioned as a 2nd lieutenant on June 7 1917. He was appointed flying officer (pilot) on August 11 1917.
Pilot of Bristol F2b bomber, serial number D8081, accompanied by 2nd lieut Frank Frewin Crump, RAF as gunner/ observer. Left Villaverla aerodrome, Italy at 2.40pm August 1 1918, but was in combat with enemy aircraft. Forced to land and crashed on Italian Grossa aerodrome at 3.00pm. Aircraft damaged and both pilot and observer were injured.
Pilot, Lieut M Ogilvy-Ramsay died of his injuries on August 4 1918 aged 20. He is buried at Montecchio Precalcino Communal Cemetery Extension, Italy.
Ramsay M O full ref AIR 76/417/13. Royal Flying Corps 139th Squadron.
Max was training to be a pilot in 1917. It was not a requirement for an officer to be commissioned in the Royal Flying Corps to hold a Royal Aero Club Aviators Certificate.
Qualified pilots could apply for this certificate, on payment of a fee … but as there was a desperate need of pilots in France and Flanders, many pilots were often posted overseas a short time after qualifying… so there was no time to apply for a Royal Aero Club Aviator’s Certificate. In addition, it was an expense a newly commissioned officer could little afford, as officers had to purchase all their own uniform and flying kit.
His family had his gravestone inscribed with the phrase ” For this I was born“. In a letter which survives in the Nicoll family there’s a brief mention of Max, “A generous lad. Got his wings. Shot down.“
a) Carlisle School Memorial Register 1264-1924
d) David Barnes
e) Nicoll family archive.